Hoarding is not collection development
Follow us on:
Categories
Making a Collection Count

Satan for kids

Don’t Make Me Go Back, Mommy: A child’s book about satanic ritual abuse
Sanford & Evans
1990

Submitter: “I give thee the most awful library book ever. Seriously. I found this little gem a few years ago doing a project for a young adult class and ILL-ed it from [a seminary!] … but 89 libraries have it in WorldCat, mostly public! Not only is the subject horrible, but the storyline is jumbled, and the pictures are cheeeeeesey colored pencil.”

Holly: This is unbelievable. There is truly a book for every subject, isn’t there? Well, if your community has a problem with satanic rituals, this might be a great choice for your children’s section. Can you imagine a child stumbling upon this: “Mommy, I want THIS one!” Story time on the dark side.  Oh, I wish I could post more pages. Truly unbelievable. Crying, naked children standing in the woods in a circle being told that nothing can be told outside the circle and that their parents have given them to the hooded people…I may have nightmares from this one. Are you supposed to read this to traumatized children after they’ve been part of a satanic ritual? It’s not comforting!

Mary:  I couldn’t believe this was published let alone in a bunch of public library collections.  Did someone say in a collection development meeting “hey we need some kiddie books on satanic ritual abuse”?  This is the scariest book I have ever seen.  Librarians, please fill me in if you know anything about this book or topic.   I am utterly speechless!

 

Click here for part 2 of this post.

Here are a couple of sample pages:

mommy don't make me go backthere2

 

117 Responses to Satan for kids

  • …and I meant to add, I wonder if this was published around the same time. Oh the title’s Ghost Girl! I knew it was the same as a recent YA book! lol

  • This book is a hilariously out-of-date example of pseudoscience but I can’t help be sad looking at it. All I can think of are the people whose lives have been ruined due to this hysteria, like the West Memphis Three.

  • ok this book looks awesome. i’m looking for more of these dark children’s books as a gift (for an adult!). this one fits the bill, but i’d like to put together a collection. more interested in absurd graphics and story lines than actual educational material. i’d love any suggestions, and links! thanks guys!

  • Ritual abuse exists all over the world. There have been reports, journal articles, web pages and criminal convictions of these horrific crimes against children and adults.

    There was no “panic.” Just a cover up of crimes against humanity.

    go to childabusewiki(dot)org and type in ritual abuse

    • Maybe so, but ritual Satanic abuse, not so much. There was a panic, but it was canceled due to lack of evidence. You should read some of the claims made by the children in the McMartin case and other similar preschool abuse cases. They sound unbelievable and totally outlandish in retrospect.

    • Sure it exists, but to an extent that books need to be published for children about it? I can’t imagine day care satanic rituals are all that frequent. I think the more common scenario was that parents involved their children in these sorts of things, but the book doesn’t seem to address that.

    • Our school library had a couple of these, but not this title, thank goodness! This is definitely not a “browsing book”! A child with experience would be psychologically harmed finding this on the picture book shelf near Henry and Mudge. A child with a strong moral/religious upbringing would never sign it out after seeing pictures of naked children or recognizable symbols of Satan. A “normal” child might bring it home, but the parents would probably skip over a lot of text, “Look at the cute bunnies!” “Oh, look, time for Jimmy to go home with his Mommy!…when’s Library Day?”

      • Hahaha, that’s my mom, you guys, the only person on earth who’d be able to bring Henry and Mudge into the discussion!

    • Wow, ritual abuse exists, I just read that crazy wiki link. I’m gonna say, no, I don’t think so. These things of which you are afraid? There is a high probability they are imaginary things.

  • from the amazon page’s Product description: “Any child who has been ritually abused will recog-nize the vilidity of this story.”

    the dash is not at a line break, either.

  • So are you suggesting we should censor it? But…that doesnt seem very liberal…why dont you let the kids decide for themselves if it is fitting. Make sense?

    • What does liberal have to do with it? Have you had a meaningful discussion with yourself about the difference between censorship and selection? Sometimes we just don’t let it all hang out.

    • Okay, we’ll just let every single book that’s ever been published into our libraries, regardless of how crappy they are. That makes plenty of sense.

  • If they exist is a case for journals, not a children’s book, thought

  • This book is so very inspired by the McMartin case. The bunnies are a dead giveaway! I remember tales of bunny abuse from back when the first accusations were made. Also, imaginary tunnels! Such tragic bs.

  • are you freaking serious?!

    What the heck were they thinking?

  • Holly & Mary–is this the most comments you’ve ever received about a book?

  • When I was a blond-haired kid in Midwich, Kent, England back in the 1950s this sort of book was the reason we got rid of that meddling library lady…

  • WOW 78 responses! Woo hoo~

    I was just thinking that the child who really needs this book (if it were any good)…and whose parents have them in a cult-like atmosphere…are completely restricted from access to such works by the very cult/parents who haev them under their control. So for whom WAS this book published?

  • I agree that this title is absurd and the treatment is awful, but don’t be so quick to condemn books on subjects like divorce, death, abuse and other unpleasant subjects that, whether we like it or not, a lot of kids face. I own a bunch of books on these subjects which, thank God, are much, much better than this one. I’m a therapist, and these books usually are published for that smaller audience. Kids who have been through a traumatic event can find it comforting to realize they are not alone, and these books can help kids who are hurting begin to feel less like an isolated “freak”.

    That said, this book should not be on any shelves and could be traumatizing for young readers. It’s terribly written, needlessly graphic and based on poppycock research. It needs to go.

  • Appallingly, unbelievably awful. I vaguely remember the McMarten case and just as vaguely the sense that it was mostly the result of hysteria. What made anyone think that Satanic ritual abuse was common enough to justify a children’s book for it?

  • Wow. Here is a link to a list of works by the author, Doris Sanford, http://tinyurl.com/yh6ff39.

  • She also wrote David Has AIDS. “A little boy with AIDS turns to God to help him cope with the pain, fear, and loneliness that surround him.”

    http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/19355389

  • The most evil thing about this book is its original purpose: it was meant to be an aide for therapists to use when questioning very young children in cases of suspected ritual abuse. The interviewer would read this book to the preschool-aged children, then ask if anything like that ever happened to them while they were at school. The kids would respond that the things described in the book DID happen to them and those statements would be considered evidence at trial.

  • This book could be total schlock, and may need weeding. But people’s responses to the possible incidence of this kind of torture are bugging me.

    Sadly, torture by non-state actors in the private sphere still happen (including ritual abuse torture, or RAT…and this includes “satanic” groups as well as your run-of-the-mill twisted parents, priests, nuns, ministers, or rabbi, etc ). But they are under or not reported, and often overlooked in human rights-based activism.

    There are those arguing that a secondary form of victimization occurs when state or civil actors refuse to acknowledge or deny the occurrence of ritualized abuse torture….reading the comments here, you can understand how folks would jump to deny that this thing could happen or be taken seriously.

    Human trafficking is something that probably doesn’t exist in first world countries either, right? Unless you count the 1999 CIA estimates of 45,000 to 50,000 women and children brought to the U.S. each year as slaves for labor or sex…
    https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/books-and-monographs/trafficking.pdf

    But people who buy kids from other countries would never buy kids from the US or Canada, right? Or do anything ritualized once they own them?

    See:
    Behavioural Harms: Enforced and Survival Tactics in Ritual Abuse- Torture Victimization
    http://www.ritualabusetorture.org/behaviouralharmspaper.pdf

    OR
    TORTURE OF CANADIAN WOMEN BY NON-STATE ACTORS IN THE PRIVATE SPHERE: A SHADOW REPORT, March 2008
    http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cedaw/docs/ngos/VOWCanada42.pdf

  • This is a wonderful book for children who have been ritually abused. One 10 year old opened it to the page with the picture displayed, said “Mommy, I know just how those children feel” and began finally talking about what had happened to him. It is a book worth 1000 times its weight in gold.

  • I agree that this book should never have been published and marketed for child readers. It would have been especially dangerous if given to a child who discloses having been ritually abused. (For the same reason, one never reads a book to a child, who has been raped at home and is preparing to testify in court, about another child’s rape experience, because defense attorneys might successfully have the legitimate testimony thrown out.) Still, we are making a serious error if we try to use this book’s existence as “proof” that ritual crimes do not occur. As long as some adults – particularly those operating in the world of criminal sociopathy and especially Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children (CSEC) – choose to use children as objects instead of as precious fellow humans, such crimes and human rights violations will continue to occur. If you would like to learn more about ritual crime and other forms of extreme abuse, or if you would like to learn about the titles of empirically supported books on these and other related subjects, please visit our educational website at http://naffoundation.org

    Thank you.

  • There is no evidence to suggest that Satanic Ritual Abuse exists. Yes, as some may point out, the lack of evidence is not proof that it doesn’t exist, but even so this book is as useful in a library collection as a book on how to protect yourself against bigfoot attacks. Bigfoot could exist and one day you may find yourself needing to defend yourself against one, but without any evidence and hard facts the book is going to be based on pure speculation.

    Child abuse and other atrocities are real issues and real concerns, but a library would be much better off with resources that deal specifically with those issues than this book.

  • There is a recent study about ritual abuse called the extreme abuse survey that documents accounts of over 1000 survivors of ritual abuse.

    • Your name links to the survey website, clearly marked “A Series of Online Surveys.”

      Such self-selecting, voluntary surveys have absolutely no scientific validity or use.

      The only possible motive I can discern in your posting is self-promotion for a sorely misguided endeavor.

  • This is my last posting on this web page, which has strayed significantly from its original subject. I’m must stray in this posting as well, because I’m concerned about the safety of extreme abuse survivors who are responding to today’s unusual number of faux “skeptical” postings.

    People who blatantly deny the existence of ritual abuse after being offered solid resources to the contrary demonstrate that they don’t need evidence about its existence. Instead, when they continue to deny its existence in a seemingly obsessive manner, they are more likely trolling for new victims in hopes that responding survivors will – while more emotional – slip-up and provide vulnerable, personal information.

    If survivors continue to respond, not realizing they’re methodically being baited, the “skeptics” will continue the game – not only to gain additional information about the survivor, but because of the sheer sadistic pleasure the perpetrators experience – whether individually or in a wolf pack format.

    Such is the nature of the human beast; it’s the exact same nature that victims of ritual abuse experience; it’s the same nature that those of us who are veteran survivors have witnessed for over twenty years from a long series of perpetrators posing as skeptics.

    If anyone else wants to leave this strangely disturbing world and regain your sanity, please consider visiting our more boring, but much more sane, website at http://naffoundation.org

    To those of you who prefer Alice’s world, I offer a second website – http://healingjourney.us.com

    In the more distant past, I was where some of you are now. You have my word, for whatever it might be worth (or not worth): until the day you die, it’s not too late to heal. Recovery hurts like hell at first, but it’s much better than being one of the living dead. Been there; have zero desire to go back.

    Take gentle care.

    • Whatever do you mean by “faux ‘skeptical’ postings?”

      Are you suggesting that my skepticism is fake? For what purpose? I’m not out to promote a website, as you obviously are.

      Are you suggesting that the “skeptics” are actually Satanists? If so, come right out and say so, rather than offering your implication, and face the possibility of a lawsuit.

      Neither you, nor the sites you point to, cite any case where hard physical evidence of Satanic Ritual Abuse exists. Your “Believe The Children” report leads with the travesty that is the “West Memphis Three” case, in which three innocent teenaged boys are advancing to middle age in prison because of the destructive hysteria promoted by people like yourself. Is this not “extreme abuse?” See http://www.wm3.org/

      Child abuse is real, and is horror enough without the embellishment of paranoid fantasies.

      I do believe that you’ve suffered greatly by your abusers — suffered to the extent that the experience still arouses phantoms of the mind.

      For you to fully heal, you need to accept that your abusers were not demons, and not in thrall to the devil. They were human beings who chose to perpetrate cruelty upon you.

      • Thank you, Robert, for saying everything I’ve wanted to say to this commenter with more grace than I’d be able to muster.
        I’ve mentioned the WM3 multiple times because it absolutely infuriates me that these innocent young men are suffering in prison while the actual killers of those poor boys are still free. That is the real evil being perpetrated.

  • As a clinical psychologist with almost 40 years of experience treating people of all ages with all kinds of problems, including severe childhood abuse. I know that people who have not been abused find such horrific events unbelievable and repulsive, but you must recognize that for a child who has been abused, it is very comforting when that experience is understood and validated. Obviously, this book is intended for clinical use and not a classroom story hour. Should children who were brutalized be denied any printed material because some people are too squeamish to allow it to be published? I’m sorry to say that what you find so disgusting really does happen to children. See http://www.theroot.com/views/shaniyas-shame
    for an article illustrating my point. And yes, some of the abuse is perpetrated in the form of rituals, satanic and otherwise. (See articles about the case of Baby X in Rupert, Idaho, 1989.) The important thing, however, is that it’s severe abuse, and people need to believe that these things really happen to children.

    • No one is denying the existence of sexual abuse, or the horror that humans can perpetrate. No one has cast any doubt on the facts in the case of Shaniya Davis.

      Rather, I argue that the believers in demons and cabals are the ones who want desperately to deflect the concept of human capacity for evil.

  • I love the ‘strawmen’ arguments being raised here. Post that SRA doesn’t exist, and the counterarguments all come out about ‘extreme abuse’ or ‘child abuse’ or human trafficking or other issues that are different from SRA. The fact that those claiming that SRA exists are resorting to strawman arguments to defend their position pretty much validates the fact that the evidence for SRA is pretty weak. (and if resorting to strawman arguments isn’t enough of a sign of a weak case, how about accusing anyone who opposes you of being an abuser. But I digress)

    Baby X’s death by the way, had nothing to do with satanic rituals. The child who claimed to have seen the satanic rituals was found to be nowhere near the Rupert area at the time of Baby X’s death.

    If you want to educate yourself on the allegations of satanic ritual abuse, instead of going to a site that discusses illuminati mind control conspiracies, I’d suggest reading this FBI report on the subject:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20031025012607/http://www.pointnet.ca/media/igtaorca.pdf

  • Reading all of the comments above reminds me of hard it is for some to see that horrible crimes can occur in this world. People close their eyes to the wars, bombings, massacres and injustices that some perpetrate on others.

    Comments are made about the McMartin case.

    In McMartin, the majority of the jurors believed the children were abused. There was physical evidence of abuse. And tunnels were found that backed up the children’s stories.

    Wikipedia is mentioned above as a legit source. Sometimes yes and sometimes no. Anyone can edit it anonymously and unlike a peer reviewed journal, there is no system of review of facts. “Death by wikipedia” has been a problem there for years.

    The West Memphis 3 are considered innocent above. There was a confession in the case and several witnesses heard Echols (one of the defendants) brag about the killings. There was strong evidence of cult killlings.

    http://courts.state.ar.us/opinions/1996a/961223sc/cr94-928.html
    http://courts.state.ar.us/opinions/1996/cr94-848.html

    There was no FBI report on ritual abuse. There was a report written by a member of the FBI, one who at first admitted publically he had never interviewed a ritual abuse survivor.

    I clicked on a few of the links above and was impressed by the lists of ritual abuse related court cases and studies. These are ignored by some posters simply as crazy or paranoid without any review.

    The evidence seems to point to the existence of ritual abuse in many of these cases.

    • “tunnels were found that backed up the children’s stories. ”

      Nope. This didn’t happen. Link, please? [citation needed]

      I’m not familiar with the details of some of these other cases, but I know about the one that occurred less than 15 miles from my house when I was only a few years out of preschool myself. Crazy hardly begins to cover it.

  • Okay everyone, I can’t keep up with comments on Satan stuff and my spam account has about flipped out. I think the satan subject for ALB is done now. Let’s move all move on with another topic. As a final comment, let me reiterate that my comments and Holly’s reflect our personal view and should not be taken as standard for every library. I would also add that the job of a librarian is to select material for the library that reflect the community’s wants and needs, with in the parameters of a selection policy and budget. This website and forum is for an intellegent discussion of that idea. ‘Nuff said. Go on about your business now!
    Mary

  • blaspheme…..for God… …God is for KIds not SAtan

  • I’m a little late to the game here, but…
    The IPT Journal has an in-depth article on McMartin Preschool, with a focus on the imaginary tunnels.

    http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume7/j7_2_1.htm

    Warning: it’s about 34 pages long, and will take a few hours to read.

  • I was absolutely shocked to see that my local library not only had this book, but had set it up, proudly displayed in the kids’ section, next to the Caldecott winners. There may be a reason they’re carrying it, but do you want some kids just yanking it off the shelf?

  • I know I’m very late to the discussion, but I just wanted to note for the record that when I was a child, I read this whole book in the children’s section of a bookstore while my mom browsed the store. It freaked me out, especially because I was often cared for in other people’s homes or driven to school by people my mom didn’t really know *that* well because she worked full time.

    If I remember correctly, the “magic juice” turns out to be urine.